Committee Summary for House Children and Family Law (03/04/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
Unclear 00:01:58.840 - 9:01:19 AM	General Working Session	Unclear
HB493 2024-1453h 00:14:38.120 - 9:13:59 AM	Public Hearing	requiring education on child abuse and neglect for certain healthcare providers as a condition for licensure.	Grossman, Gaby(D)[IN]2025
HB493 2024-1453h 01:28:17.920 - 10:27:38 AM	Executive Session	requiring education on child abuse and neglect for certain healthcare providers as a condition for licensure.	Grossman, Gaby(D)[IN]2025
HB543 01:30:44.199 - 10:30:05 AM	Public Hearing	establishing a committee to study how the family division customarily treats accusations of domestic violence and to study current family division practices relative to the right to testify and right to submit evidence.	Litchfield, Melissa(R)[B+]2025
HB543 01:37:43.440 - 10:37:04 AM	Executive Session	establishing a committee to study how the family division customarily treats accusations of domestic violence and to study current family division practices relative to the right to testify and right to submit evidence.	Litchfield, Melissa(R)[B+]2025
HB430 01:39:36.960 - 10:38:57 AM	Executive Session	reducing the retention period for records of unfounded abuse and neglect reports by the department of health and human services.	Spillane, James(R)[A]2025
HB661 01:45:19.520 - 10:44:40 AM	Executive Session	relative to the department of health and human services management of social security payments, supplemental security income payments, and veterans benefits for children in foster care.	Wallner, Mary Jane(D)[F]2025
HB652 01:51:46.079 - 10:51:07 AM	Executive Session	abolishing the family division, creating the office of family mediation, and reassigning the jurisdiction of the family division.	Bernardy, JD(R)[B+]2025
HB652 0695 03:11:38.840 - 12:10:59 PM	Executive Session	abolishing the family division, creating the office of family mediation, and reassigning the jurisdiction of the family division.	Bernardy, JD(R)[B+]2025
HB285 03:58:42.000 - 12:58:03 PM	Executive Session	relative to determination of parental rights and responsibilities.	Ball, Lorie(R)[B+]2025
HB560 0673 04:01:21.239 - 1:00:42 PM	Executive Session	(New Title) relative to parental access to a minor child's medical records, relative to refusal of consent to testing to determine alcohol concentration and penalties for aggravated driving while intoxicated, defining pre-sequestration timber tax revenue, establishing a moratorium on carbon sequestration and establishing a commission to study the effects of carbon sequestration in New Hampshire forests upon state and local tax revenue, effective forest management, and the health of New Hampshire’s logging industry.	Litchfield, Melissa(R)[B+]2025
HB493 0715 04:10:43.760 - 1:10:04 PM	Executive Session	requiring education on child abuse and neglect for certain healthcare providers as a condition for licensure.	Grossman, Gaby(D)[IN]2025

Unclear: Committee Chair Information Only00:01:58.840 - 9:01:19 AM; The committee chair opened the meeting and made several announcements. They mentioned the availability of Girl Scout cookies at the fourth floor front desk, the deadline for filing a Minority Report, and that there would be no meeting next Tuesday due to town meeting day. The next committee meeting is scheduled for March 18th, where hearings and executive sessions on HB 518, HB 775, and HB 553 will be held. The chair also provided updates on a member's personal situation and introduced substitute representatives.
Unclear: Katie Peternell, State Representative for Wolfeboro Information Only00:06:44.160 - 9:06:05 AM; Representative Katie Peternell introduced herself as a substitute from the Judiciary Committee, representing Wolfeboro, and humorously noted that her role as a clerk in her usual committee involves less work.
Unclear: Rosemary Rung, State Representative for Hillsborough 12 (Marlow) Information Only00:06:44.160 - 9:06:05 AM; Representative Rosemary Rung introduced herself as a substitute from Division One of Finance, representing Marlow in her fourth term. She expressed appreciation for the change in committee assignment.
Unclear: Stephanie Grund, State Representative for Hillsborough 34 (Amherst) Information Only00:06:44.160 - 9:06:05 AM; Representative Stephanie Grund introduced herself as a first-term representative from Amherst, substituting from the Municipal and County Government Committee. She expressed excitement about her first time subbing in the Children and Family Law Committee and mentioned her past involvement with Girl Scouts.
Unclear: Committee Chair Information Only00:07:49.520 - 9:07:10 AM; The committee chair discussed the formation of a family court subcommittee of the Children and Family Law Committee. They recounted the work of a special committee on the Family Division of Circuit Court, which took oral and written testimonies and had numerous meetings. The chair expressed a collaborative approach with judicial leaders and highlighted the need for further work on several issues, including the quality of pre-trial counseling, variability in evidence admission, and handling of domestic violence cases. The chair announced the appointment of the subcommittee members and their objectives to work thoroughly on these issues, potentially leading to legislative proposals by the end of October.
Unclear: Alicia Greg, State Representative for Nashua Ward 7 Information Only00:13:47.160 - 9:13:08 AM; Representative Alicia Greg opened the hearing on House Bill 493, which requires education on child abuse and neglect for certain health care providers. She mentioned that she was substituting for Representative Gorman and that the bill was similar to one reviewed the previous year.
HB493 2024-1453h: Alicia Greg, State Representative for Nashua Ward 7 Support00:14:38.120 - 9:13:59 AM; Representative Greg supports the bill, emphasizing the importance of training healthcare professionals on child abuse and neglect. She mentions an amendment that reduces the required education from two hours to one hour, arguing that this duration is sufficient yet impactful. Greg highlights the dual need for education to prevent both missed cases of abuse and false accusations, noting that other states even require training for beauticians and estheticians due to their potential to observe abuse.
HB493 2024-1453h: Ben Bradley, New Hampshire Hospital Association Oppose00:18:13.919 - 9:17:34 AM; Ben Bradley, representing the New Hampshire Hospital Association, opposes the bill. He acknowledges the importance of reporting child abuse and neglect but argues against legislating specific educational requirements for healthcare professionals. Bradley points out that professionals already have a duty to report various issues, and singling out child abuse training could create inconsistencies. He notes that previous legislative educational mandates, such as for opioid prescribing, have been repealed, suggesting that such decisions should be left to professional boards. Despite opposition to the bill, Bradley appreciates the collaborative efforts with the bill's proponents and the educational initiatives they support.
HB493 2024-1453h: Cassandra Sanchez, New Hampshire Office of the Child Advocate Support00:26:54.840 - 9:26:15 AM; Cassandra Sanchez, the Child Advocate for the State of New Hampshire, spoke in support of HB493 and its amendment. She highlighted the Office of the Child Advocate's (OCA) involvement in addressing child abuse since early 2020, specifically noting a case involving non-ambulatory infants with multiple broken bones. Sanchez discussed the importance of training for medical professionals to identify abuse and neglect early, citing a system review mapping conducted in August 2023 to identify gaps in the system. She mentioned the development of an online training course aimed at improving the detection of child abuse, which has been available for five months. However, she noted that participation has been lower than expected on a voluntary basis, advocating for the requirement of this training within the existing mandatory hours for medical professionals to ensure more children are protected from abuse and neglect.
HB493 2024-1453h: Dr. Michael Matos, Wolfeboro Pediatrics Support00:38:20.839 - 9:37:41 AM; Dr. Michael Matos, a general pediatrician from Wolfeboro Pediatrics, expressed support for the bill. He emphasized the necessity for all physicians treating pediatric patients to receive child abuse training, sharing a recent case from the emergency department where child abuse was not appropriately addressed. Matos discussed the reluctance of some physicians to engage with child abuse cases due to a lack of training, which can lead to missed opportunities for intervention. He also addressed the proposed coursework, stating that the one-hour training requirement is not excessive and aligns with other mandatory training hours, such as those for opioid addiction treatment. He concluded by stating that child abuse is a common issue that physicians encounter regularly, and proper training will help them recognize and appropriately handle these cases.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Love Information Only00:42:04.160 - 9:41:25 AM; Representative Love asked Dr. Matos if one hour of training is sufficient for physicians to handle cases of child abuse. Dr. Matos responded by emphasizing the complexity of child abuse and the importance of equipping physicians with the necessary tools to confidently address these cases rather than avoiding them.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Deimon Information Only00:43:21.480 - 9:42:42 AM; Representative Deimon inquired whether most physicians and medical staff are aware of their obligation as mandated reporters of child abuse. Dr. Matos confirmed that everyone in New Hampshire is a mandated reporter, and training at his hospital reinforces this responsibility, focusing on the process of reporting.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Deimon (Follow-up) Information Only00:44:35.920 - 9:43:56 AM; In a follow-up question, Representative Deimon asked if the training would encourage more frequent reporting among mandated reporters. Dr. Matos indicated that discomfort with reporting, rather than rushing, is a more common barrier, and that the training helps address this by explaining the reporting process.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Coren Information Only00:45:50.160 - 9:45:11 AM; Representative Coren discussed a case involving a seven-year-old and questioned whether the physician's reluctance to report was due to a lack of education on their responsibility. Dr. Matos agreed that the training clarifies the legal protection for those who report and emphasizes the need for physicians to take action when child abuse is suspected.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Grund Information Only00:46:45.920 - 9:46:06 AM; Representative Grund asked about the assumption versus the requirement of training in child abuse reporting among different medical professionals. Dr. Matos highlighted the necessity of including child abuse in the biannual training for all physicians, given its common occurrence, to ensure they are equipped to handle such cases.
HB493 2024-1453h: Dr. Gwendolyn Gladstone, New Hampshire Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics Support00:48:08.480 - 9:47:29 AM; Dr. Gladstone, a retired child abuse pediatrician, spoke in favor of HB493, emphasizing the need for mandatory education on child abuse and neglect for medical professionals. She highlighted the lack of comprehensive training among many providers, which can lead to missed signs of abuse and the potential for children to be returned to abusive environments. She also pointed out the risk of misdiagnosis leading to unnecessary family investigations. Dr. Gladstone mentioned that many states have adopted similar requirements following tragic public incidents. She discussed the current two-hour course available, which is more comprehensive than necessary for some specialties, but proposed reducing the mandatory requirement to one hour while keeping the two-hour course available for those who need it. She stressed the importance of the course being specific to New Hampshire laws and child protection systems.
HB493 2024-1453h: The Honorable Betty Gay Support00:55:05.760 - 9:54:26 AM; Former Representative Betty Gay supported HB493, underscoring the sensitivity and prevalence of child abuse. She shared personal experiences of encountering child abuse cases in recent days, which reinforced her belief in the necessity of the bill. She argued that refreshing knowledge on child abuse through mandatory training would not be burdensome for medical professionals and could lead to better recognition and reporting of abuse cases. She urged the committee to pass the bill to help protect children.
HB493 2024-1453h: Attorney Nicholas Fry, Office of Professional Licensure and Certification (OPLC) Information Only01:02:21.720 - 10:01:42 AM; Attorney Fry from the OPLC provided information regarding the operational challenges of implementing HB493 as currently written. He explained that the OPLC licenses physicians, physician assistants, and nurse practitioners without regard to their specialty or whether they treat patients under 18. Therefore, they do not track who works with children, which could make it difficult to enforce the bill's requirement for education on child abuse and neglect. He noted that without tracking this data, compliance would rely on an honor system.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Raymond Information Only01:05:46.000 - 10:05:07 AM; Representative Raymond asked Attorney Nicholas Fry if the requirement to take training on child abuse and neglect would apply to all healthcare providers regardless of their specialty. He specifically mentioned a scenario involving a physician assistant working in a nursing home. Attorney Fry clarified that as currently written, the bill does not allow for opting out based on specialty, and they lack the data to track changes in a healthcare provider's specialty over time.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Nelson Information Only01:06:47.880 - 10:06:08 AM; Representative Nelson inquired if there was a way to amend the bill to address the issue of applying the training requirement to all specialties. Attorney Fry responded that their office prefers not to get involved in legislating and highlighted the concern that the requirement is for those treating patients under 18, but there is no specific license type that fits this category.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Rung Information Only01:08:00.920 - 10:07:21 AM; Representative Rung asked about the current minimum hours required for license renewal in New Hampshire and how many of those are mandated for specific training areas. Attorney Fry explained that the requirement varies by board, using the example of medicine where different categories of continuing education exist, and mentioned mandatory opioid credits as a universal requirement across license types.
HB493 2024-1453h: Kathy Stratton, New Hampshire Medical Society Oppose01:10:07.760 - 10:09:28 AM; Kathy Stratton, CEO of the New Hampshire Medical Society, testified in opposition to HB493. She argued that mandating child abuse and neglect education as a condition of licensure for all healthcare providers treating patients under 18 is unnecessary and burdensome. She emphasized that such training should be handled outside of the legislative process by the medical board and society. Stratton pointed out that physicians already complete 100 hours of continuing education every two years, and mandating specific training could lead to redundancy and inefficiency. She also noted the ambiguity in the bill regarding whether the required hours would be included in the existing continuing education requirement.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Rice Information Only01:13:38.840 - 10:12:59 AM; Representative Rice questioned how the New Hampshire Medical Society ensures that physicians trained outside of New Hampshire receive training on the state's child abuse statutes. Kathy Stratton responded that while they believe training is important, it should not be legislated, and they are working with physicians to make such information available. Rice also brought up the low number of physicians and nurses who have taken the course voluntarily and asked about the awareness of the groundswell of public support for addressing this issue. Stratton acknowledged awareness of this sentiment and efforts to increase training availability without legislation.
HB493 2024-1453h: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:17:53.600 - 10:17:14 AM; The speaker, who appears to be advocating for vulnerable people, expressed a desire to support efforts to address child abuse but opposed the legislative mandate of such efforts. They suggested that the focus should be on supporting these initiatives without making them a legal requirement.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Coal Coron Information Only01:19:05.120 - 10:18:26 AM; Representative Coal Coron questioned the stance of a medical society regarding a physician's response to child abuse cases. The response emphasized the ethical responsibility of physicians to do no harm and suggested that such issues are more appropriately handled by licensing boards rather than medical societies.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Rice Information Only01:20:23.520 - 10:19:44 AM; Representative Rice questioned the timing and effectiveness of a medical society's efforts to promote continuing education on child abuse, pointing out that it took several months to act after the legislation was initially discussed. The response indicated a new CEO's recent appointment and immediate actions taken upon learning about available training opportunities.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative George Support01:22:19.480 - 10:21:40 AM; Representative George, who practiced in Seal for nearly 40 years as a primary care provider and specialist, supported the bill due to the importance of reporting child abuse cases that go unreported and lead to repeated harm. The medical society's representative clarified their support for increasing detection and reporting of child abuse but opposed the legislative mandate.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Love Support01:23:29.520 - 10:22:50 AM; Representative Love questioned the effectiveness of voluntary participation in child abuse training courses, arguing that a mandate is necessary due to low participation rates. The response from the medical society suggested that participation in such courses was expected to increase over time and that physicians are conscientious about their training.
HB493 2024-1453h: Representative Grund Information Only01:24:40.600 - 10:24:01 AM; Representative Grund asked if the assumption of training being done is equivalent to a requirement, emphasizing the need to ensure that such training is actually being completed. The response highlighted that physicians are required to report their continuing education, and the data could be reviewed to assess the impact of such courses, but reiterated opposition to the legislative mandate.
HB493 2024-1453h: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:27:25.119 - 10:26:46 AM; The speaker expressed concerns about the medical society's perspective on bills that dictate how Continuing Education (CE) medical units should be conducted. The testimony concluded with no further questions from the committee.
HB493 2024-1453h: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:28:17.920 - 10:27:38 AM; The speaker discussed the possibility of crafting an amendment over lunch, suggesting changes such as specifying that the amendment is part of existing requirements rather than additional, and considering a change in statutory placement from 329:16 to 169. The committee agreed to give more time for amendment preparation, with a potential delay of two weeks if necessary.
HB543: Representative Lichfield Support01:30:44.199 - 10:30:05 AM; Representative Lichfield introduced HB543 on behalf of former Representative Betty Gay, highlighting the urgency of the bill due to the Family Division's treatment of domestic violence cases. The bill aims to establish a study committee to examine the practices of the Family Division in handling domestic violence, with a focus on improving court procedures and ensuring constitutional rights.
HB543: Former Representative Betty Gay Support01:32:28.639 - 10:31:49 AM; Former Representative Gay supported HB543, emphasizing the need for immediate action to address constitutional rights violations in the Family Division. She criticized the current system for not allowing due process and suggested either passing a corrective bill or addressing the issue promptly through a study committee. She also mentioned the lack of direct testimony from affected individuals in the governor's commission on domestic violence, urging for more inclusive and immediate action.
HB543: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:37:43.440 - 10:37:04 AM; The speaker, likely the committee chair, explained that a subcommittee was already appointed to address the issues covered by HB543, making the bill redundant. The committee voted unanimously (16-0) to recommend the bill as inexpedient to legislate (ITL), citing the existing subcommittee as a reason for not proceeding with the bill.
HB430: Representative Rice Information Only01:39:36.960 - 10:38:57 AM; Representative Rice moved to recommend HB430 as inexpedient to legislate, with the motion seconded by Representative Greg. The session was set to discuss reducing the retention period for records of unfounded abuse and neglect reports.
HB430: Representative Rice Oppose01:41:00.800 - 10:40:21 AM; Representative Rice argued in favor of moving the bill to be deemed inexpedient to legislate (ITL), stating that reports of abuse and neglect can be deemed unfounded, but maintaining these records can help show a pattern of abuse or neglect, which was recently put into statute in 2017. They emphasized the confidentiality of these reports, alleviating concerns about employers accessing them, and stressed the importance of these records for protecting children.
HB430: Representative Greg Oppose01:41:52.679 - 10:41:13 AM; Representative Greg supported the motion to deem the bill inexpedient to legislate, reiterating the confidentiality of the reports and their statistical importance for understanding state trends and court handling of cases. They argued that while the intentions of the bill might be good, it could cause more harm than good by potentially misplacing public concerns.
HB430: Representative Nelson Oppose01:43:03.040 - 10:42:24 AM; Representative Nelson added to the discussion by emphasizing the importance of maintaining records for the protection of children, pointing out that an unfounded report might not initially identify abuse but could help recognize subsequent intensified abuse towards other children. They argued that looking back at a history of reports could be crucial for supporting children.
HB430: Representative Rice Oppose01:43:03.040 - 10:42:24 AM; Representative Rice further supported the motion to deem the bill inexpedient to legislate by adding that maintaining records could also identify patterns of malicious reporting, benefiting all areas involved.
HB661: Representative Coren Support01:45:19.520 - 10:44:40 AM; Representative Coren moved to pass HB661 as Ought to Pass (OTP), indicating their support for the bill.
HB661: Representative Raymond Support01:46:07.960 - 10:45:28 AM; Representative Raymond seconded the motion to pass HB661 as OTP, showing their support for the bill.
HB661: Representative Ken Support01:46:07.960 - 10:45:28 AM; Representative Ken spoke in favor of their motion for HB661, explaining that the bill aims to ensure that money awarded to children in foster care from the state, including Social Security and veterans benefits, is returned to the child upon aging out of foster care. They highlighted the significant impact this could have on foster kids starting their lives.
HB661: Representative Deimon Support01:46:55.679 - 10:46:16 AM; Representative Deimon strongly supports HB661, emphasizing that the money in question rightfully belongs to the children in foster care. They highlight the inequity of children receiving social security having to pay back the foster care system while others do not. They view the bill as a 'no-brainer' and argue against withholding the money from the children.
HB661: Representative Raymond Support01:48:16.880 - 10:47:37 AM; Representative Raymond supports HB661 and clarifies that the bill does not mandate saving all the money for the child but requires the state to consider the best use of the funds. They share their experience from working at DCF, noting cases where the removal of social security payments from a family led to housing instability, which could prevent a child from returning home. They believe the bill could help prevent such scenarios and also support saving money for children aging out of foster care.
HB652: Representative Coren Information Only01:51:46.079 - 10:51:07 AM; Representative Coren moves to retain HB652 for committee study, highlighting the need to thoroughly examine issues within the family court system. They mention an existing subcommittee formed by Chair Pearson and stress the importance of not brushing aside the issue.
HB652: Representative Greg Oppose01:52:59.199 - 10:52:20 AM; Representative Greg opposes the motion to retain HB652, arguing that the bill's hostile nature towards the courts could hinder cooperation and testimony. They suggest an 'ITL' (Inexpedient to Legislate) motion instead and encourage bill sponsors to attend sessions to learn from ongoing efforts.
HB652: Representative Deimon Support01:54:11.400 - 10:53:32 AM; Representative Deimon supports retaining HB652, reinforcing that the committee will investigate the court system. They explain that if the bill is found unnecessary, a simple retention report would suffice, but if issues are identified, further action could be considered.
HB652: Representative L Oppose01:55:05.040 - 10:54:26 AM; Representative L agrees with Representative Greg's point about the bill's hostility towards the family court system. They argue that abolishing the family court and reassigning its jurisdiction to the superior courts could overlook the good work done by the family court, especially during difficult times in people's lives such as divorce or child custody disputes.
HB652: Representative L Oppose01:56:15.679 - 10:55:36 AM; Representative L expressed opposition to the idea of integrating family court matters back into the superior court system, arguing that it would place additional strain on already burdened mediation and court systems. They suggested that maintaining a separate family court system would be less hostile and more effective. Representative L supported the motion for 'inexpedient to legislate' (ITL).
HB652: Representative Love Support01:57:26.239 - 10:56:47 AM; Representative Love supported retaining the bill, arguing that the newly established committee could use the bill to address issues quickly without needing to go through a rules committee. They believed that having the bill ready for amendments would be beneficial for expedient legislative action.
HB652: Representative Greg Oppose01:58:19.880 - 10:57:40 AM; Representative Greg opposed the idea of retaining the bill, describing it as a 'threat Bill' that could undermine the committee's intentional work and the relationships built with the court system. They argued against keeping bills in reserve, emphasizing the committee's focus on direct and immediate problem-solving within the court systems.
HB652: Representative Raymond Oppose01:59:19.239 - 10:58:40 AM; Representative Raymond opposed the bill, stating it did not address critical issues such as rules of evidence and the ability to appeal rulings. They felt the bill, which suggested moving from judges to mediators, did not align with the feedback received from previous committee sessions and public testimony, and thus would not solve the identified problems in the family court system.
HB652: Representative Rung Information Only02:00:26.199 - 10:59:47 AM; Representative Rung inquired about the fiscal note for the bill, which was still pending from the judicial branch. They noted the absence of the fiscal note as a concern that needed clarification.
HB652: Representative George Support02:00:58.079 - 11:00:19 AM; Representative George supported sending the bill to a subcommittee for further research, believing that a smaller group could effectively address the acknowledged problems in the family court system.
HB652: Representative Love Information Only02:02:04.480 - 11:01:25 AM; Representative Love sought clarification on the relationship between the legislative committee and the family court, emphasizing the importance of a collaborative rather than hostile approach. They highlighted the success of the special committee in influencing judicial action and expressed a desire to continue fostering a positive relationship.
HB652: Representative Love Support02:03:09.960 - 11:02:30 AM; Representative Love expressed support for retaining the bill, suggesting it could be kept in reserve while the subcommittee continues its work. They acknowledged the broken rules in the family court but felt the legislative approach should be supportive rather than adversarial.
HB652: Chair Information Only02:04:39.079 - 11:04:00 AM; The chair summarized the vote on the motion to retain the bill, which passed with a vote of 10-6. They noted that the bill would be kept in the committee for further work on the topic, alongside another related issue, and concluded the executive session on HB652.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:11:38.840 - 12:10:59 PM; The speaker made a motion to introduce Amendment 0695 to HB652, which would replace all other amendments previously introduced. The amendment was seconded by Rice, and the speaker confirmed the amendment number as 0695, distributing copies among the committee members.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:12:32.960 - 12:11:53 PM; The speaker explained the differences between the new Amendment 0695 and the previous amendment. The only change in the new amendment was on page two under 'all parents rights are reserved', specifically under lowercase 'a', to include the right to inquire of the school or school personnel and receive accurate, truthful, and complete information about their minor child within five days if an immediate answer cannot be provided.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:13:18.239 - 12:12:39 PM; The speaker further clarified that Amendment 0695 changes the original HB652 by replacing all after the enacting clause, emphasizing that this is the only difference from the previous amendment.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:14:41.720 - 12:14:02 PM; The speaker addressed a procedural question about handling multiple amendments simultaneously. They explained that the committee must vote on Amendment 0695 before considering another amendment. They also mentioned that another amendment from Representative Raymond mirrors Senate Bill 72, which has passed through its committee but not yet voted on the floor. The speaker noted minor changes in Senate Bill 72 related to terminology and standards of proof.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:17:18.239 - 12:16:39 PM; The speaker raised a concern about the definition of 'parent' in different amendments. They noted that Representative D. Simon's amendment defines 'parent' as a legal, natural, or adoptive parent, questioning the term 'legal natural'. Another speaker clarified that 'legal natural' refers to a biological parent whose parental rights could be removed by a court of law.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:17:18.239 - 12:16:39 PM; The speaker expressed concerns about the amendment, particularly about using undefined terms within it, indicating a flaw in the amendment's structure.
HB652 0695: Representative Rice Oppose03:18:37.520 - 12:17:58 PM; Representative Rice argued against amending a House bill to match a Senate bill that has not been seen yet, suggesting that such amendments are redundant and should be addressed when the Senate bill comes to the House.
HB652 0695: Representative Raymond Support03:19:43.040 - 12:19:04 PM; Representative Raymond supported early alignment of bills between the House and Senate to avoid delays in a committee of conference. They highlighted the differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill, particularly regarding the inclusion of medical records, and supported the amendment for promoting parents' rights.
HB652 0695: Representative Coren Support03:21:04.279 - 12:20:25 PM; Representative Coren expressed support for HB10 as amended, appreciating its inclusiveness and its coverage of healthcare practitioners, which aligns with the concerns of parents about their rights.
HB652 0695: Representative Markel Support03:22:16.640 - 12:21:37 PM; Representative Markel referenced an up-to-date parenting plan document, indicating that the bill and amendment align well with it, supporting the rights of parents to access information as outlined in parenting plans.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Support03:23:02.520 - 12:22:23 PM; The speaker discussed how parenting plans, required by RSA 461a, include language about information access and sharing, which aligns with the rights outlined in HB10. They emphasized the importance of the bill in informing parents of their rights and supported it as a model for parental rights.
HB652 0695: Representative Greg Oppose03:25:28.120 - 12:24:49 PM; Representative Greg expressed concerns about the amendment's language on page four, lines 17 and 18, which allows any parent to inspect school district instructional materials, potentially including private and home schools. This could lead to widespread requests for information, causing concern.
HB652 0695: Representative Deimon Support03:26:47.239 - 12:26:08 PM; Representative Deimon clarified that the amendment specifically mentions 'School District' to ensure that parents can inspect instructional materials, whether from public or private schools within the district. This is to help parents make informed decisions about moving to a new district.
HB652 0695: Representative Coren Information Only03:28:02.080 - 12:27:23 PM; Representative Coren sought clarification on whether the amendment's provisions apply only to public schools, to which it was clarified that it applies to both public and private schools depending on the district's instructional materials.
HB652 0695: Representative Rosemarie Rung, Hillsborough - District 12 Information Only03:28:52.920 - 12:28:13 PM; Representative Rong expressed a concern about the lack of emphasis on parental responsibilities in the amendment and the bill. They highlighted the importance of parents not only having rights but also fulfilling their responsibilities, especially in light of the testimony heard earlier about child abuse. They suggested that the document should more clearly convey the vital role of parents in being responsible.
HB652 0695: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:30:04.399 - 12:29:25 PM; The speaker, whose name was not clearly stated, responded to Representative Rong's comments by referring to the first page of the document which defines parental rights and responsibilities. They pointed out that the text includes provisions for care, custody, control, parenting time, decision-making, and residential responsibility, and mentioned that these rights can be restored upon showing evidence that it is in the best interest of the child.
HB652 0695: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:30:58.800 - 12:30:19 PM; The speaker continued to discuss the importance of parental responsibility, suggesting that the document should more strongly communicate the vital role parents have in being responsible. They shared a personal anecdote about a father who was unaware of his child's school building several months into the school year, describing such behavior as irresponsible though not illegal.
HB652 0695: Representative George Information Only03:31:57.000 - 12:31:18 PM; Representative George expressed concern over the dynamics between parents, teachers, and students within schools. They noted that some parents tend to sue schools and that this behavior can lead to a lack of respect from children towards teachers. They emphasized the importance of addressing the relationship between all parties in the bill.
HB652 0695: Representative Greg Information Only03:33:02.160 - 12:32:23 PM; Representative Greg raised a concern regarding the access to medical records as specified on page two, line 25 of the bill. They pointed out that the bill's wording might not cover all scenarios, especially in cases of child abuse investigations which often fall under civil rather than criminal court. They shared a personal experience about their late husband's attempt to access medical records during an investigation, which was used to bolster his criminal case.
HB652 0695: Representative Mar Information Only03:34:45.720 - 12:34:06 PM; Representative Mar addressed concerns regarding the handling of abusive cases and the distinction between civil and criminal contexts. He discussed the right to challenge evidence in criminal cases, especially in cases involving horrific crimes against children. In the civil context, he referenced the New Hampshire Supreme Court case 'In reberg' from 2005, which dealt with the privilege of psychiatric records in contentious divorce hearings. He emphasized the balance between the rights of patients and parents, noting that under HIPAA, personal representatives have similar standing to patients for accessing records. He also highlighted the potential for intervention in cases involving abuse or neglect.
HB652 0695: Representative Raymond Information Only03:38:49.160 - 12:38:10 PM; Representative Raymond raised concerns about the requirement for parental consent for medical procedures on minors, as outlined in the bill. He specifically questioned the provision for emergency situations, citing an example where immediate treatment was necessary before a parent could physically consent. He asked about the implications for daily parenting routines and the potential for conflicts between parents regarding consent.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:39:57.160 - 12:39:18 PM; The speaker, likely a resident lawyer, clarified that other statutes allow for emergency medical treatment without consent, as mentioned in the bill. They explained that in cases of warring parents, consent from one parent is sufficient, but if a parent is obstructive or detrimental to the child's well-being, they would need to answer for it in court.
HB652 0695: Representative Nson Information Only03:41:09.600 - 12:40:30 PM; Representative Nson pointed out that the bill includes an exception for emergency services as per RSA 1538, suggesting that emergency situations in school settings would be covered under this provision.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:41:09.600 - 12:40:30 PM; The speaker announced the motion on House Bill 10 with Amendment 695, which was moved by Representative Deimon and seconded by Representative Rice. The motion was then prepared for a roll call vote.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:41:09.600 - 12:40:30 PM; The speaker concluded their remarks about the adoption of the amendments to HB652.
HB652 0695: Chair Information Only03:42:03.239 - 12:41:24 PM; The Chair clarified that the committee was voting on the adoption of the amendments to HB652. They proceeded to call a roll call vote on the amendment, which passed with a vote count of 9-7.
HB652 0695: Representative D. Simon Information Only03:42:54.720 - 12:42:15 PM; Representative D. Simon moved to pass House Bill 652 'ought to pass as amended' by amendment 0695.
HB652 0695: Representative Rice Information Only03:42:54.720 - 12:42:15 PM; Representative Rice seconded the motion to pass House Bill 652 as amended.
HB652 0695: Chair Information Only03:44:16.199 - 12:43:37 PM; The Chair called for a roll call vote on the motion to pass HB652 as amended, which passed with a vote count of 9-7.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:44:52.040 - 12:44:13 PM; The speaker considered whether to propose another amendment or to end the session, discussing the potential outcomes of further amendments.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:45:23.359 - 12:44:44 PM; The speaker thanked everyone and seemed to conclude the session.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:46:43.840 - 12:46:04 PM; The speaker indicated that no further discussion or amendments were necessary, suggesting the session might be concluded.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:47:43.840 - 12:47:04 PM; The speaker discusses the importance of the amendment, emphasizing a unified committee approach and the significance of parental rights across both public and private schools. The amendment aims to consolidate parental rights into one place for clarity and ease of understanding, which is seen as a problem when scattered. The speaker also mentions alignment with the Senate bill's intent and federal law regarding medical rights, suggesting the amendment's strength and potential for bipartisan support. The speaker hopes for the amendment's passage, indicating its importance and the committee's dedication to the issue.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:53:48.800 - 12:53:09 PM; The speaker concludes the discussion on amendment 0699 to House Bill 10, which has been moved and seconded. A roll call vote is taken, resulting in the amendment's failure with a vote of 9-7. The standing motion on House Bill 10 with Amendment 0695 is then voted favorably out of the committee. The speaker instructs the representative to prepare a blurb for the bill, indicating the next steps in the legislative process.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Oppose03:54:46.760 - 12:54:07 PM; The speaker opens the executive session on House Bill 285, discussing a motion for 'inexpedient to legislate' (ITL) on the bill. The speaker argues that HB 285 unfairly targets mental health conditions in custody decisions without requiring evidence of impact on parenting ability. The broad language could lead to discrimination and deter individuals from seeking mental health care. The speaker supports the ITL motion, suggesting that custody decisions should focus on specific behaviors and child well-being rather than generalized assumptions about mental health.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Oppose03:56:12.680 - 12:55:33 PM; The speaker initially considered supporting HB 285 as a reminder but, after consulting with judges, realized that mental health is already considered in custody decisions. The speaker was concerned that singling out mental health might lead to unnecessary discrimination. An amendment was prepared to soften the bill's language, but after discussions within the caucus, the speaker concluded it was unnecessary and potentially harmful, leading to support for the ITL motion.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Oppose03:57:36.359 - 12:56:57 PM; The speaker agrees with the previous sentiments against HB 285, emphasizing the potential for discrimination if mental health is singled out in custody decisions. The speaker supports the ITL motion and requests a sheet for the minority report on the previous bill, indicating procedural steps and attention to detail in the legislative process.
HB652 0695: Unidentified Speaker Oppose03:56:58.920 - 12:56:19 PM; The speaker acknowledges the intent behind HB 285 and the struggles it aims to address. However, the speaker believes that other broader legislation can cover the same issues without specifically calling out mental health. This broader approach is seen as more effective and inclusive, leading to support for the ITL motion on HB 285.
HB285: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:58:42.000 - 12:58:03 PM; The speaker emphasized the need for a comprehensive approach to family issues rather than focusing on a single issue. They argued against singling out mental health issues as a determinant for parenting rights, citing examples of individuals with mental health issues who are excellent parents. However, they acknowledged that the court should intervene if necessary to ensure children's safety.
HB285: Unidentified Speaker Information Only03:59:30.960 - 12:58:51 PM; The speaker seconded a motion to recommend 'inexpedient to legislate' (ITL) on House Bill 285. A roll call vote was conducted, resulting in a unanimous decision of 14 to 0 in favor of ITL.
HB560 0673: Representative Coren Information Only04:01:21.239 - 1:00:42 PM; Representative Coren moved to recommend 'ought to pass' (OTP) for House Bill 560, but this motion was temporarily withdrawn to address an amendment first.
HB560 0673: Representative Raymond Information Only04:02:21.239 - 1:01:42 PM; Representative Raymond proposed Amendment 0673 to House Bill 560. The amendment removes the phrase 'clear and convincing' from the bill, aligning it with the child protection statute's standard of proof. This change was necessary as the previous language had prevented the bill from passing in previous sessions.
HB560 0673: Representative Markel Information Only04:03:28.880 - 1:02:49 PM; Representative Markel provided a detailed explanation of the legal standards of proof, including 'beyond a reasonable doubt,' 'clear and convincing evidence,' and 'preponderance of the evidence.' He supported the amendment, suggesting that the standard of 'reasonable cause to suspect' used in the child protection statute should be applied in this context as well.
HB560 0673: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:08:00.920 - 1:07:21 PM; The speaker facilitated the process of voting on Amendment 0673, which was moved by Representative Raymond and seconded by Representative Greg. The amendment passed unanimously with a vote of 14 to 0.
HB560 0673: Representative Coren Information Only04:09:20.600 - 1:08:41 PM; After the amendment was passed, Representative Coren moved to recommend 'ought to pass as amended' (OTPA) for House Bill 560. The motion was seconded by Representative Rice, and it passed unanimously with a vote of 14 to 0.
HB493 0715: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:10:43.760 - 1:10:04 PM; The speaker opened the executive session on House Bill 493 and mentioned that Amendment 0715 was before the committee. A motion to adopt the amendment was moved and seconded by the chair.
HB493 0715: Representative Greg Support04:11:34.159 - 1:10:55 PM; Representative Greg discussed the amendment 0715 to House Bill 493, emphasizing the decision to include the entire section two to cover all Physicians under continuing medical education, not just those treating minors. He highlighted the importance of child abuse education and noted changes to the statute to include it under continuing medical education. He also addressed concerns about the potential flood of similar requests but argued that child abuse is a significant issue that justifies the amendment. He withdrew his initial objection and expressed appreciation for the team's collaborative effort.
HB493 0715: Representative Nelson Support04:13:13.800 - 1:12:34 PM; Representative Nelson emotionally shared the impact of a previous testimony about non-ambulatory infants seen with bruising and the severe outcomes they faced. He expressed gratitude for the compromise reached on the bill and appreciated the chairman's openness to the amendment.
HB493 0715: Representative Pano Support04:14:26.960 - 1:13:47 PM; Representative Pano humorously noted that with the amendment, they could go home and tell their spouses they did not add an extra hour to their burden, indicating support for the amendment.
HB493 0715: Representative D Simon Support04:15:43.560 - 1:15:04 PM; Representative D Simon discussed the testimony of a physician who highlighted the issue of rushed medical assessments and the importance of stopping to recognize signs of child abuse. He supported the amendment as it could educate physicians to take necessary time, despite the pressures from insurance companies, and shared a strong sentiment against the influence of insurance on medical practice.
HB493 0715: Representative Coren Support04:16:18.479 - 1:15:39 PM; Representative Coren pointed out a different aspect of the issue discussed by a physician, focusing on the reluctance of some to get involved despite noticing abuse. He supported the amendment and recognized the need to address such behavior.
HB493 0715: Representative Rosemarie Rung, Hillsborough - District 12 Support04:17:25.640 - 1:16:46 PM; Representative Rong supported the amendment, noting its expanded scope to all Physicians, which could help identify child abuse signs in patients not directly treated by the physician, such as family members. He emphasized the potential benefit to children who might not be directly seen by the physician.

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